tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post4694650640713398455..comments2024-03-21T03:21:56.821-04:00Comments on Leigh Talbert Moore, Author: Mockingjay & How Guys ReadLTMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05239077455322030275noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-49490020286374401612010-09-08T18:34:15.926-04:002010-09-08T18:34:15.926-04:00DL: Really? You didn't like THG? I wonder why?...DL: Really? You didn't like THG? I wonder why?<br /><br />Me = also Hollywood ending gal. But I don't mind if they've had to go through some stuff to get to it. I just like a positive ending... Yes? :o)LTMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05239077455322030275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-78232386154468137342010-09-07T19:43:06.666-04:002010-09-07T19:43:06.666-04:00I've only read HG, and I must admit I wasn'...I've only read HG, and I must admit I wasn't that impressed. I was going to wait until the other two came out in paperback to read them, but now I'm thinking not. I'm a "Hollywood Ending" type of guy...I like my happy endings (which is one reason I stopped reading Stephen King). Life is depressing enough, why can't we be lifted above all that in our fiction?DL Hammonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02007260062331783715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-82955481146743971252010-09-06T13:24:58.209-04:002010-09-06T13:24:58.209-04:00@RaShelle: it's on the "to read" lis...@RaShelle: it's on the "to read" list~ :o)<br /><br />@Tina: I don't have boys, but IMO, this series is really better for older YA. The violence is very graphic. (But I've been informed that's normal for guys--so maybe preread?) :o)LTMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05239077455322030275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-90285494636092159742010-09-06T12:36:21.693-04:002010-09-06T12:36:21.693-04:00I have two boys, 10 and 13. The oldest is a vorac...I have two boys, 10 and 13. The oldest is a voracious reader and jumped straight into adult fiction, with his favorites found in fantasy and sci-fi. He likes series. My youngest hates to read. I just keep telling him that all we have to do is find the right kind of book, and he'll love it. We've had a couple of hits, but those weren't series, so it was back to the hunt again. Our librarian had even assembled a list of recommended books for boys his age who don't like to read. He has liked some of them. But if I were to compare the volume of books read, Jake would be at one end of the scale and YellowBoy at the other. All that to say, I think there's definitely a market there. And I haven't read the series you're talking about. Is it 10 year old appropriate?Tinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08925730745204736744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-22384341447464809982010-09-02T13:24:01.168-04:002010-09-02T13:24:01.168-04:00I love purple myslef. You're so cute.
I'...I love purple myslef. You're so cute. <br /><br />I'm not a big werewolf fan myself, which if why I waited so long to read it. The reason why I mentioned it is that it's part of a series, which usually means the reader is going to be left hanging. Her ending was one of THE most beautiful I've read in a LONG time. You have to have the build up to get the full effect, of course, but BEAUTIFUL!RaShelle Workmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17582252557500502186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-66268319964329188312010-09-02T08:52:48.583-04:002010-09-02T08:52:48.583-04:00I personally love pink bows... And boas~ ;p
Have ...I personally love pink bows... And boas~ ;p<br /><br />Have *not* read shiver. Not a big werewolf fan. But I've thought about it--everyone keeps saying it's good. Is it?LTMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05239077455322030275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-6875550951553687862010-09-01T23:21:57.110-04:002010-09-01T23:21:57.110-04:00Leigh - I understand and I don't need a big, r...Leigh - I understand and I don't need a big, red, fancy, velvet bow. Heh heh. But some good, strong packaging string is nice. <br />Have you read the book "shiver"?RaShelle Workmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17582252557500502186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-36862412677477829422010-09-01T22:39:05.797-04:002010-09-01T22:39:05.797-04:00@Portia: They're super interesting books! I ju...@Portia: They're super interesting books! I just wish the final installment had played out... differently. Yes? :o) Oh, and Empire Strikes Back? Totally the best. ;p<br /><br />@RaShelle: lol @gruesome you! ;p You are making my point, though. I don't have to have my stories tied up all nice with a pretty pink bow... I just don't want them to be so awfully grim. :o\LTMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05239077455322030275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-32435705376320265962010-09-01T13:00:54.892-04:002010-09-01T13:00:54.892-04:00Hi Leigh - I'm worried about Mockingjay too. I...Hi Leigh - I'm worried about Mockingjay too. I've heard this similar thoughts from others. While I enjoy greusome (obviously), I also need to have the happy ending. The fact that it isn't going to happen makes it so I don't want to read the book. And it seems our kids are getting enough hell in real life. Is it necessary to reaffirm that by saying there can't even be a happy ending in fiction? *still pondering*RaShelle Workmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17582252557500502186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-70583773750256333602010-09-01T10:34:45.938-04:002010-09-01T10:34:45.938-04:00I've not read any of the series, but now you&#...I've not read any of the series, but now you're making me think I should. You made an interesting point about books in a series. By the last, it can sometimes feel like the author is just trying to wrap it up--just when the reader wants to savor and go deeper!<br /><br />—PortiaPortiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13435815819572442582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-51180994289357874282010-08-31T11:58:27.607-04:002010-08-31T11:58:27.607-04:00@Jen: Yay! :p
@Jan: I think Dead Frog on the Porc...@Jen: Yay! :p<br /><br />@Jan: I think Dead Frog on the Porch should have UNIVERSAL appeal... :D I really do!<br /><br />@Jess: (hows that for alliteration!) Jen, Jan, Jess~ All I have to say is "being tired of them" would certainly explain Collins's approach to this final installment b/c she sure let those characters HAVE IT. :D <br /><br />I dunno. The other side says us naysayers just don't get it. Perhaps they're right. Maybe I never should have liked these books in the first place... ? ;pLTMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05239077455322030275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-74535345317959557152010-08-31T00:44:41.964-04:002010-08-31T00:44:41.964-04:00Well, I don't read any current YA. The only YA...Well, I don't read any current YA. The only YA I've read was when I was studying children's lit at University, and when I was about 14, borrowing from the school library, those books where you could choose your own ending. Did you ever read those? Anyway, a little off the topic, but I think Mockingjay would have juat been churned out for the sake of the publishers. I bet the women is DESPERATE to write something with new characters!!! ;o)Jessica Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10889900730906728317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-60089948419987103492010-08-30T22:09:20.003-04:002010-08-30T22:09:20.003-04:00Interesting review of Mockingjay. Also interesting...Interesting review of Mockingjay. Also interesting about how guys read. I think teenaged girls also read adult books but continue to read y/a. My debut middle grade novel, <i>Dead Frog on the Porch</i>, with twin girl protagonist, manages to appeal to both girls and boys in that age range.Jan Markleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08317561950719847803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-72241360290934963632010-08-30T18:53:31.176-04:002010-08-30T18:53:31.176-04:00I haven't read Mockingjay but I really found t...I haven't read Mockingjay but I really found this post interesting and loved reading the comments that went along with it. Very insightful!!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03667521490706435608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-62186103630165249262010-08-30T18:27:22.475-04:002010-08-30T18:27:22.475-04:00@Hart: well, the social commentary is there, but t...@Hart: well, the social commentary is there, but there's little else if you get my drift... yep! And you had some great insights on boy readers on that other post~<br /><br />@Angie: that's me w/MJ. I'm thinking the guys probably loved it... ;p<br /><br />@CC: I felt like they had so much promise... Personally, I liked CF best of the three. But isn't that the rule w/trilogies? #2 is always best? MJ stayed w/me but not in a good way. In a "Man!" kinda way. :D<br /><br />@Ange: You'll prob. like the first two HG books... ;p I guess for the male POV, try channeling the male speakers you know. Or who are like your character... yes? How do they talk? I bet you get it. You have a nice rhythm w/language.<br /><br />@Rosie: MJ just had no breaks. It was one big war book. As for the YA boy market, I just wonder if we built it, would they come? I'm not really targeting this mkt, though. So I've no expertise here~ :o)LTMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05239077455322030275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-40828253610394162202010-08-30T15:50:16.065-04:002010-08-30T15:50:16.065-04:00OH, man, I'm bummed to hear your thoughts on M...OH, man, I'm bummed to hear your thoughts on Mockingjay. I haven't read it, but I haven't read the first two, either, so it's not happening any time soon. I was really interested in the discussion on NB's blog last week, though.<br /><br />I'm not sure about the YA market for boys. The question would be, how to expand it. I'm sure it could be, but the how is the key. Someone (Roland?) had a good point about boys wanting more action and less of the romance. If books were written with teen boys as the MCs, some by not intense girl-involvement, and serious action/drama, maybe that would work. What do you think? Will you blog about this more later?RosieChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07911305246379355484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-76712400186087585382010-08-30T15:31:02.511-04:002010-08-30T15:31:02.511-04:00I haven't picked up any of these books but the...I haven't picked up any of these books but they are on my reading list. I'm a bit skeptical and anxious to read them now to see the things you pointed out about it. Heck if a writer can move the reader or get a point across, and do it exceptionally well, then kudos to them. <br />I too wonder about the YA guy (especially since I have a son) market. I'm writing a YA now and I am concerned with writing in first person for one of my male characters, because I'm not sure I can even pull it off! Yikes! oF course I just need to study and read more guy YA to get the hang of it. Obviously I'm being much too hard on myself. LOL.A Pen In Neverland: Angela Peña Dahlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01979468109234357616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-60264342041341859852010-08-30T14:26:03.177-04:002010-08-30T14:26:03.177-04:00So I couldn't stay away. I skimmed :P And kudo...So I couldn't stay away. I skimmed :P And kudos to you for going quite spoiler free. <br /><br />I can't remember if I still was reading "The Hunger Games" or just had finished it when I commented last, but either way I feel that in retrospect I have changed my feelings about this book slightly. While reading it I thought it was SO SO SO good, and that I would never forget this book EVER. And then it ended and the ending was okay-ish, especially because I knew there was more to come. But then the weekend passed, and suddenly I realized I hadn't thought about the book once. Usually when I read something I like, I think about it afterwards. This - I devoured it - not so much. <br /><br />My impression from the Mockingjay reviews I haven't been able to avoid is that this is sort of the problem with that book. You are left expecting more, but not exactly getting it. And since you say the love triangle thing (which , I must say, feels slightly forced in the first book, but I expect that will become more prominent as Gale gets more action [I presume?] in book two) ends, then I have a fair idea why. <br /><br />I will still read them, of course. But I don't think I will remember them when I am 85...Cruella Colletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11422848273167338884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-48197342707672519322010-08-30T13:43:34.430-04:002010-08-30T13:43:34.430-04:00I personally haven't read any of the Hunger Ga...I personally haven't read any of the Hunger Games books yet, my my teen boys loved it and are excited to read Catching Fire and Mockingjay. I think there could be a male YA market, but I think it would have to focus a lot on action and adventure.Angiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01445455787485222068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-80579613688753750012010-08-30T13:07:00.313-04:002010-08-30T13:07:00.313-04:00I haven't read Mockingjay, yet (I am 153rd on ...I haven't read Mockingjay, yet (I am 153rd on the library waiting list, but there are 50 copies, so I should get it around late October).<br /><br />I actually love the social commentary in the earlier books--the political thing... interested if with THAT in mind you think I'd like it.<br /><br />On boys though--good observations. There IS some YA fantasy for boys (my son loves Cirque de Freak) but I can see the 'skipping it' part--I did that myself, as when I was a teen, the YA selection was not nearly so good. I jumped from Judy Bloom to Stephen King because at 12, I was suddenly 'all that' and wanted to prove my maturity with bigger stuff... or something like that.Hart Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17599570189253229318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-24498950418828505082010-08-30T11:35:17.586-04:002010-08-30T11:35:17.586-04:00@Stephen: Me, too! Your comment on YA male readers...@Stephen: Me, too! Your comment on YA male readers was so inspiring to me, btw. I felt like writing immediately! :D And this comment reminds me of my post on "why adults read YA" (Aug. 19). <br /><br />Mockingjay is NOT why I read YA... ;pLTMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05239077455322030275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-73206343162444147322010-08-30T11:26:20.360-04:002010-08-30T11:26:20.360-04:00@Anne: It was a bit heavy-handed, and the beauty o...@Anne: It was a bit heavy-handed, and the beauty of the prev. books was their subtlety--the creepy familiarity of the reality TV, the Roman coliseum. She hit us all over the head this time. I said in another spot I felt like the mole in "Whack a Mole." :D <br /><br />@Odie: I's just teasing you. That was Spinal Tap, remember? What's wrong w/being sexy?<br /><br />@Carolyn: Half price??? Wow. Well, if anybody's paying attention, it's the GIRLS who are still reading YA. Might need to keep that in mind. And shew, you're right. Some of those games are gruesome...LTMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05239077455322030275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-86114540986644058492010-08-30T11:26:05.278-04:002010-08-30T11:26:05.278-04:00I guess I'm a happy ending kinda guy. I like v...I guess I'm a happy ending kinda guy. I like violence and stuff, but there has to be some redeeming value and closure at the end. I understand life in not always that way, however, I don't need to feed my brain with chronic misery. I know its out there in the world, and I try to make a difference the best I can. But I don't need to let misery dominate and control my life.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.stephentremp.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Stephen Tremp</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-80587361778394665882010-08-30T11:15:21.461-04:002010-08-30T11:15:21.461-04:00I have to agree with you about Mockingjay, all dar...I have to agree with you about Mockingjay, all darkness and no bright spots. Felt preachy and the ending was just tacked on. But you know, boys are playing Resistance and Metal Gear Solid and you don't even want to know what kind of violence is in that. This book is no big deal for them. Girls, well, we need more of the deep emotional stuff that I don't think Collins really knew how to tap. Maybe that's why Borders was giving them up at 50% off?? Get em out the door before people hear it was disappointing?Carolyn Abiadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10567399129586443513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8702219714438420151.post-12736787528231988032010-08-30T10:08:57.939-04:002010-08-30T10:08:57.939-04:00sexist, really?!? hmmm....
But yeah, what's w...sexist, really?!? hmmm....<br />But yeah, what's wrong with <br />being sexy? <br />doing best Austin Powers impression: Well hello!!!Yeah babay!!!!Ex-pat Odessahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03657864512970771221noreply@blogger.com